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Shane1988




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PostSubject: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 5:02 am

Hi all I've managed to strip everything change the diff and replace all in the right order but naw I've got a problem everything's working fine but the housing around the silver ball thing not sure rotors called has got alot ov movement and was just wondering how you tighten it to takeout the play cheers
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 7:35 am

i think you need to undo the two 17mm bolts on top and add some shims but not to many as you will over tighten the bearings i think
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 7:36 am

i think you need to undo the two 17mm bolts on top and add some shims but not to many as you will over tighten the bearings i think
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 7:40 am

yes what he said Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 7:55 am

i believe u remove shims if theres play not add?
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 8:07 am

no you add them i no it sound wrong but it push down more on bearing thake the play out did it on the jimny had a shim kit thin to thick try em till you find one that thaks play out i had to put 3 in it with new bearing well worn lol
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 8:17 am

But when I stripped it down yesterday it was fine but when I put back together todaywas loose so cud u explain why I need to add shims as I'm trying to learn a bit bowt fixing landys as I want to start fixing minemyself n where would I get shims cheers
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 8:20 am

[quote="Shane1988"]But when I stripped it down yesterday it was fine but when I put back together todaywas loose so cud u explain why I need to add shims as I'm trying to learn a bit bowt fixing landys as I want to start fixing minemyself n where would I get shims cheers[/quot

go and buy a manauel you thick twat lol
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 8:39 am

pmsl Very Happy may be a shim fell out swansea 4x4 got em shims take the play out ov a worn swivall or king pin bearing
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 8:49 am

Baz wrote:
no you add them i no it sound wrong but it push down more on bearing thake the play out did it on the jimny had a shim kit thin to thick try em till you find one that thaks play out i had to put 3 in it with new bearing well worn lol

I'm pretty sure u remove them I dont know how a jimny swivel works but with a land rover u remove shims did u tighten everything up properly?
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 8:51 am

As the top swivel pin wears down through use, the wheel will move more and more freely. To keep the resistance against turning within the specified values, you will have to remove shims from under the top swivel pin. Removing a shim means the pin runs further down into swivel housing, increasing the resistance.

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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 9:00 am

PITBULL wrote:
Baz wrote:
no you add them i no it sound wrong but it push down more on bearing thake the play out did it on the jimny had a shim kit thin to thick try em till you find one that thaks play out i had to put 3 in it with new bearing well worn lol

I'm pretty sure u remove them I dont know how a jimny swivel works but with a land rover u remove shims did u tighten everything up properly?
Shocked Neutral shims go in betwean swival and houseing not on top shim is replaceing the gap betwean the two takeing out the play as thay wear same on landrover if im not miss taken
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 9:10 am

sorry i had it wrong way round lol was long time ago i done it lol i put 3 shims in wasnt that warn then after all start with thick one and work down over time as it wears . Embarassed pitbull all ways saves the day lol he loves google lol
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 9:16 am

thanks for that baz u can get a swivel kit from bearmach for about 30 quid or less
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 9:41 am

You can get it cheaper in foundries 4x4 and they easy to do sorted one out on landy take all the 10 m bolts out on the oil seal unbolt the track rods take the swivel pins out then the lot will pull out mite have to take brake calipors off you see were the swivel pin slots in on the top nock the old one out Then put it all back sorted


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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 9:42 am

But check to see if the wheel bearings are ok 1st
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeMon Dec 05, 2011 7:11 pm

Yeah wheel bearings were done both sides bowt 4 weeks ago for Mot so I'll have to have a play about with it see wot I can do cheers
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PostSubject: Re: More help   More help Icon_minitimeTue Dec 06, 2011 2:54 am

Baz wrote:
sorry i had it wrong way round lol was long time ago i done it lol i put 3 shims in wasnt that warn then after all start with thick one and work down over time as it wears . Embarassed pitbull all ways saves the day lol he loves google lol

I use google to back up my superior knowledge farao
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