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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Discovery Dilema Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:30 am | |
| I have a 96 300tdi which I really like. I have a samurai with cage, winches, 33's and 6:1 tx box etc etc for real extreme stuff however I want to do some thing to the disco to make it possible to take the kids to fun days. However I need to keep a fair amount of road ability as I need it for pulling my sammy and my boat. (not anything fancy just an old fibreglass jobby!!) So I was considering two options 1. Fitting cut out arches and a std height HD suspension kit with 265/75/16's 2. Saying to hell with it I like big tyres and fitting the arches and a plus 2 lift then a set of 285/75/16 (33's), then prob needing to fit a defender transfer box. Either way I am planning on running a mud pattern similar to a BF goodrich MT. (Some road manners) Doing away with the cat and the EGR and turning up the bio fuel thru the pump and fitting a bigger intercooler. Bearing in mind the need for road use too I would really apreciate the benefit of you guys practical experiance of such mods - how much power is sapped from the 265's, how much better the defender tx box is, what the road handling is like with a 2" lift etc etc. I live in Argyll on the west coast of scotland. Thanks to you all in advance I hate making decisions - especially expensive ones!! | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:59 am | |
| i use to have a 200tdi with 265/75/16 and a 3" lift on bearmach hd blue springs drove really well with procomp shocks but have been told old man emu shocks make it drive much betta then pro comp didnt notice much difference in power 2 std i now have a heavily tuned 300tdi with 33/12.5/15 and notice a power loss but have got hd shafts and beedlocked mach 5 witch dont help also only gettin 17mpg so i would go 4 265s 4 on / off road hope this helps | |
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tony Admin
Number of posts : 3629 Age : 56 Location : rhondda south wales Job/hobbies : carpenter / offroad ham radio 4x4 : landrover 90 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:51 am | |
| my discovery 300tdi got full external cage part internal cage t max winch 11000 front and back 35/1250/15 pro spacers 30m diff guards steering guard safari snorkel k&n pro turbo samco sport turbo hose system z-ex performance stainless steel exhaust 3 inch bore 6 inch suspension lift twin procomp shocks+5 back with 5 inch droppers +18 front dislocation cones flex arches polybush kit drilled discs reversing camera dvd tv dab cd cb sat nav fridge road angel plus 2 wipac safari 8'' driving lamps 100w 4 angel eyes 100w head lamps 100w high sierra hs-1800/pro antenna with a 12 foot tank whip yaesu ft-857d hf vhf uhf and separation kit yaesu vx-7r triple-band hand set hi-lift jack extended breather lines rock sliders 4 climair wind and rain deflectors tow pack extended braded brake hoses 21 inch 30° WIDE YOKE PROPSHAFT back DOUBLE CARDAN front PROPSHAFT Adjustable Front Panhard Bar qt Radius Arms qt Trailing Arms heavy duty steering bars back arb diff locker 2.5 Gallon Viair Air Tank and compressor American air train horns 175+db drives lovely (but needs a 90 transfer box)
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adam1181
Number of posts : 386 Age : 43 Location : ammanford Job/hobbies : powered access engineer / getting muddy 4x4 : 3 pajero's Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:16 am | |
| big head verrrrry nice though | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:57 am | |
| he is in he remember tony i might say 35s on them but we no different dont we 32slol | |
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tony Admin
Number of posts : 3629 Age : 56 Location : rhondda south wales Job/hobbies : carpenter / offroad ham radio 4x4 : landrover 90 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:01 am | |
| 35 1250 15 on them but geting new soon | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:07 am | |
| i need new tyres 37s me want lol | |
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:51 pm | |
| Its a great big nobbly tyre thing that stems from playing with tonka trucks as a kid......... I really want to go for the 33's but my sensible side says 265's!!! Power wise tuned up with the defender tx box it might be pretty dare I use the word in the same line as landrover ........fast?!!!!! Disco on +2 springs does it wallow much more???? | |
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robert francis
Number of posts : 4333 Age : 47 Location : wales Job/hobbies : 4x4s 4x4 : land rover discovery 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:30 pm | |
| not if you leave your anti roll bars on, i got 33 and a 3"lift and no roll bars and shes a pig nut she my pig, lol | |
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robert francis
Number of posts : 4333 Age : 47 Location : wales Job/hobbies : 4x4s 4x4 : land rover discovery 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:32 pm | |
| hi i forgot to mention at the mo im running hankook dynaprosmuds i think there quite quiet on the road for a mud and dont wear that quick, ta | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:16 am | |
| yea rob u got scorpion racing sh17 on urs lol there designed soft 4 more twist go h/d blue springs and it should be ok a little different if not the same IMHO | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:19 am | |
| my old truck had 3" h/d blue springs and my new 1 got 2" yellow springs (soft) my new 1 wallows much more then my old 1 but twists betta as wheels go up more | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:23 am | |
| i think a 2" lift usin h/d springs with old man emu shocks will b betta on road then std from what iv heard u could always go all old man emu depending on budget www.gwynlewis4x4.co.uk sell old man emu stuff its what i will b upgrading 2 in the near future .................. if i dont sell up | |
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tony Admin
Number of posts : 3629 Age : 56 Location : rhondda south wales Job/hobbies : carpenter / offroad ham radio 4x4 : landrover 90 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:11 am | |
| i had 3" ( on disco 300tdi )h/d blue springs and bfg a/t 245/75/16 and it was cool .and running bfj 265/75/16 mud on my defender 130 and thay been on there 3 years and loads left on them | |
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nokiamutt
Number of posts : 457 Age : 47 Location : Pontardawe 4x4 : Defender. ARB's Beadlocks. 34in Simex .AND A SHINEY GEARKNOB Registration date : 2008-06-01
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:00 am | |
| old man emu all the way , mine are bomb proof , shock shafts are thick as *&$£ Heavy duty alright | |
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:28 pm | |
| Wickd, Reckon handling wise that I will be able to get away with the 33s then, When you say uv got ur truck heavily tuned pitbull, by what I mentioned at the top or even more??? How much diff does it really make in the real world??? 40bhp?? | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:28 pm | |
| JE Engengering stage 2 tune, allisport Intercooler, HiClones, samco hoses as 2 speed can get ova 90 in it not as fast off the line as u would expect but i put this down 2 my h/d shafts and CVs beedlocked mach5s (as they r very heavy) and needin a def transfer box | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:03 pm | |
| - some guy off another forum wrote:
- Just an update to suspension..
As some of you may know, since replacing my shocks on the 90 last October to fit Gwyn Lewis's Challenge shock mounts, I haven't been happy the handling of my 90. sad.gif Basically it's too bouncy and pitches/dives too much on road and it's due to underdamping of the Rough Country 11" travel shocks.
I've seen a few posts suggesting that's it's the angle of Gwyn's mounts that reduce the damping effect of the shocks. I know that shock angle affects damping, but the difference in angle is not that much and doesn't explain why the front is underdamped too where the angle hasn't changed at all. So a change of shock was needed, but with this much travel there is not a lot of options. unsure.gif
So I decided to change out the shocks for the OME set that Gwyn supplies. These are N73 OME shocks used for lifted landcruisers. The reason I went for the Rough Country's in the first place and not the OME's was price, as they were over a £100 less than the OME set.
What are they like???? - Well the transformation is instantantaneous with a much firmer ride even on the fairly flat tarmac at the beginning of the test drive. I spend a lot of my road miles on b-roads at speeds of 40-60mph where road quality is not at it's best and the ride with the Rough Country's was awful. The test route included some faster b roads and the ride was so much better and back to normal when I was running the DeCarbon +2" dampers with the previous suspension set up. The damping of the N73 shocks is so much more effective than the Rough Country's and shows that you can have a good handling Defender with Gwyn's shock mount set up.
The shocks were fitted yesterday and since then I've done over 200 miles on road and about 20 off-road and the ride is excellent again (for a 90 that is wink.gif ). So I'm very happy again. Unlike people say, you can have a Defender with good articulation/performance off-road with good road handling on road and no compromise is needed. I'm running LR HD 90 springs front and rear and X-springs on the rear springs.
To make sure it wasn't a placebo effect I popped over to Chris's (GBMUD) and he drove the 90 before and after fitting the shocks. I'll let him post his opinions if he wants to, but it's safe to say there is no placebo effect in my preference for the OME shocks. I should have saved myself £170 and ordered the OME's in the first place rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif instead of being a cheap barsteward! Lastly, you seem to get what you pay for and the quality of the shocks is much better with bigger bushes and a full metal shroud over the shock shaft.
Cheers
Steve this guy is running a 2" lift on a defender | |
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:11 pm | |
| Pitbull, I like ur arches. Where R they from?? Do you reckon that those arches with HD + 1 springs would accommodate the 33's ? How much bhp do you guess that youv unleashed??? | |
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robert francis
Number of posts : 4333 Age : 47 Location : wales Job/hobbies : 4x4s 4x4 : land rover discovery 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:19 pm | |
| i think you should go for a 2" lift, i think thats what pitbulls running and his looks a nice hight, and like he says with the right gear on it you shouldnt loose your handling | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:35 pm | |
| hi my arches are from devon4x4 i dont think u will get away with a 1" lift as i have a 2" lift with 33s that measure 32" so r undersized and my wheels just touch on full articulation but r soft its hard 2put a figure on increased power as i bought my disco as it is so cant comment on b4 and after but JE Engineering quote (i have stage 2) Discovery Mk1 Diesel Engine Upgrades 300 TDi Performance Options Stage 1. You don't have to put up with the sluggish performance of the standard 300 TDi any more. JE 's much acclaimed mechanical fuel pump recalibration conversion for the 300 TDi provides 20% more performance in its revised form, providing 122 bhp & 320 Nm (235 Lb.ft) Torque, reducing 0 - 60 mph time by well over 2 seconds. Fitted & tested £490 exchange +vat Stage 2. Comprising a mechanical fuel pump recalibration together with a gas flowed air inlet & intercooling system. Another 7% more performance is released, giving 132 bhp & 340 Nm (250 Lb.ft) Torque, taking another second off the 0 - 60 mph time. Fitted & tested £650 exchange +vat hope this helps | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:10 pm | |
| thanks for all the input guys, its certainly giving me more to base my decisions on. am offshore just now but will be sure to post pics of what i do when i am back home. the mrs will not be so keen on this - she said on purchasing the disco "oh no not another project like the suzuki" i said "of course not dear this is a std road going vehicle"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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robert francis
Number of posts : 4333 Age : 47 Location : wales Job/hobbies : 4x4s 4x4 : land rover discovery 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:07 pm | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:01 pm | |
| i had the same with my mrs she said "u can buy a newer 1 then that 4 less money" i said "yea but everything is done 2it and i wont want 2spend money on it 4 a long time" (already cost me about 1k in repairing what i break and im lookin 2get bigger tyres soon and a external roll cage 2 replace the internal 1 i sold out of it and i front air locker 2 got with the back 1 and i plan on upgradin the suspension kit 2 OME the list gos on o yea almost 4got im still toyin with the idea of turning in into a 100" tryback defender so i dont keep smashin up the panels lol havnt even had it a year yet | |
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:07 am | |
| Hi guys, back offshore again so now have abit of time to update you on what actually happened!!! lol
After getting home I looked at it and squinted - then stripped out the interior to find the holy bits in the floor. Spent a day welding in a few patches - the awkward ones being the corners of the rear arches. Left the sills for my mate to do in his garage as I ran out of gas!!! Then used navy steel, then hamerite then body sealer as required. Still have some coating to do underneath.
Then I started ordering parts!!! lmao
Fitted lots of britpart as the value is there. So on went standard height heavy duty springs and gas shocks, with poly bushes on the anti roll bars. This has had the effect of around 1 1/2 - 2 " lift over standard due to the weight of the springs. Was intending on beefing up the standard steering rods with some galvy pipe but the ball joints were not so good so on went britpart HD steering arms with a gas damper. Fitted a wheel arch kit - still need to do some trimming tho! After that with the std wheels and tyres the ride was amazing on the road. really tight. Then the water pump packed in!! So to fir the new one I had to take out the radiator to get the impact gun on the pulleys of the serpentine belt. While at it all I striped out all the pipework from the turbo to the inlet manifold and gave it a good clean out along with the intercooler and the inlet manifold. They were minging and that alone gave a real boost to the mid range pull. I also then put a blanking plate in the EGR.
While the front end was in bits I was horrified to discover no metal left holding the front body mounts in place and the inner front wings not lookin as good as I thought they might. Fortunatly a mate of mine just bought a 300tdi disco to take the engine out of and the front end is good. My plan is to slice down in front of the bulkhead - undo the 4 body mounts and then blast it paint it and graft it into mine - however I think I may make it a bolt on fit so I could take the entire front end off if needed in the future. Comments????????
After much deliberation I ordered a set of 33's!!! You all knew I would I was kidding myself thinking that I would have the 265's!! Anyway got the 33x12.5x15 Mastercraft courser MT from silverline with black modulars. So far very impressed, quite grippy for a mt (on the road) not too noisy on the road. look fantastic as they have big chunnky side lugs. My daughter is now not embarrased to be taken to school in it so it must be OK!!
Now the burning issue POWER!!! I have been told by D4x4 that a defender 1.4 transfer box on a disco with 33's will bring the gearing back to standard. I have got the box but its not yet fitted. I am impressed as to how well the 300tdi copes with the 33s as standard. However they do sap a lot of power - its akin to towing a big loaded trailer. So when back in the UK I will fit the box. Along with a boost guage, and the stainless straight through exhaust I have sitting in the garage. This does away with the cat and the centre box. Then I plan on turning up the boost and fuelling. On speaking to the performance intercooler people when they fit the 300 odd quid intercooler they also turn up fueling and boost - so most of the performance increase actually comes from the fueling/boost increase not the intercooler at all. I reckon to get the disco to around 150bhp as a realistic figure with these mods - will post back and let you know how I get on. Also reckon I will be fitting extended bump stops to the rear as the tyres touch. I have got some pics for you but not sure how to get them in here? help??? | |
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robert francis
Number of posts : 4333 Age : 47 Location : wales Job/hobbies : 4x4s 4x4 : land rover discovery 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:50 am | |
| ask pitbull about the pictures, but i wish i had a bottom less pit of cash to throw at my disco like you. haha | |
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:11 am | |
| Its no bottomless pit believe me, wit 4 kids to feed its a nice big fat credit card bill for chrimbo!!! But hey didnt my kids want a monster disco from santa!!!! lol | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:51 am | |
| tonka iv sent u a pm mate | |
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:47 pm | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:56 am | |
| no prob just glad u understood it un like some ...... NEIL .... ROB ..... | |
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:06 pm | |
| Why oh why do disco's allways sit down at the back??? | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:25 am | |
| do they ??? Mine use 2 sit lovely till I replaced the front springs 4the wrong 1s cos the cock in bearmach said "cos u got a winch u need these 1s" what a cock LOL or maybe it's the winch that made it sit nice go get a winch and c LOL | |
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tony Admin
Number of posts : 3629 Age : 56 Location : rhondda south wales Job/hobbies : carpenter / offroad ham radio 4x4 : landrover 90 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:17 am | |
| looks nice | |
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:15 pm | |
| Thanks, I am planning on a winch and a CB. What is getting me quite excited is that one of the chasis companies are starting to produce 100" chasis'. So I wont try too hard in the future to keep the disco body good and rust free!! The disco is better for the kids tho and should still have another couple of years to go. Then the thought is a 100" defender special on a galvy chassis. | |
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:21 am | |
| I have fittted a 1.4 defender transfer box. It was a pig of a job mainly due to acccess and the fact it was freezing cold!! I did it in a mates garage on the ramps. Would not have tried to do it on the floor. It makes a huge difference. I can pull up hills in 5th etc. It is basically just like driving a standard disco gearing wise - however the higher 5th gear of the old box did give noticably better fuel consumption when cruising on the flat!! So if its power you want with them big tyres get a 1.4 tx box | |
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tony Admin
Number of posts : 3629 Age : 56 Location : rhondda south wales Job/hobbies : carpenter / offroad ham radio 4x4 : landrover 90 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:40 am | |
| got one on my disco got creepy crawlers 35/1250/15 and they rip the transferbox to bits so got a new box the guy selling it told me its the lowest you can get for the landrovers but its pulls well don't have to slip the clutch on hill starts photo of my old box | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:48 am | |
| havnt u got a 1.6 box tone not a 1.4 | |
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tony Admin
Number of posts : 3629 Age : 56 Location : rhondda south wales Job/hobbies : carpenter / offroad ham radio 4x4 : landrover 90 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:52 am | |
| yes i have and what do you think of them | |
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PITBULL
Number of posts : 3993 Age : 38 Location : Barry 4x4 : RRC 200tdi Registration date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:57 am | |
| crap | |
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tony Admin
Number of posts : 3629 Age : 56 Location : rhondda south wales Job/hobbies : carpenter / offroad ham radio 4x4 : landrover 90 200tdi Registration date : 2007-12-29
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:58 am | |
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bullfrog4x4
Number of posts : 59 Age : 50 Location : Mid DORSET Job/hobbies : fabricator extreme 4x4 : disco 300 Registration date : 2008-12-09
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:06 am | |
| The wifes 300 has 33/12.50/15s on with standard gearing and pulls like a train. It is an auto so that may make a difference. Oh and turbonutters disco (the big orange one) now has portal axles, coilovers and a tuned 200 auto sitting under it. | |
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jayce
Number of posts : 223 Location : south wales Job/hobbies : football and offroading 4x4 : my dads discovery 300 tdi Registration date : 2008-08-02
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:13 am | |
| and it has big big BBIIGG shocks | |
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:45 pm | |
| Hi all, I have been offshore for the past few months, should be back in the UK in the next coupla weeks and have got a nice shiny new winch and CB sitting in the porch awaiting my return!! Need to look into sills and a rear bumper with tank gaurd. Any ideas??? | |
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tonka
Number of posts : 13 Age : 44 Registration date : 2008-10-14
| Subject: Re: Discovery Dilema Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:55 pm | |
| Another quick one - I was advised againt the 1.6 transfer box as being too low geared and not strong enough - this was by a man in the know from D4x4. he advised the 1.4 box and as it is the standard defender item whereas the 1.6 is early defender only it is easier to source. Power wise the straight through and de-cat pipes with the fuel pump tweaked do make a difference, not huge but noticable. Am still considering the merits of an intercooler. The exhaust sounds great - not loud enough to make anyone think its a 1 litre spotty youfs wet dream but raspy enough to be different. | |
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