any tips for arc welding?

Have never used an arc before , tho my mig welding is pretty good now

anyway am going to weld a plate between my chassis rails to bolt a winch onto. any tips for a first timer?

Like you I'm pretty confident with a MIG, but have never used an arc so unsure.. Any reasons why you can't use the MIG then??

cos its got to be super strong, and mig not deep enough penetration or something

not enough penetration lmao story of my life

with arc welding the work piece must be super clean, make sure there is no dirt, rust or oil on the metal.

ive never welded, but i do have a mig im give ago soon, but as russ said, the serface has to be spotless,
thats what ive heard anyway, i sold my mig welder before i tried it, lol

i use both mig and arc and mig is plenty strong enough for what u want me and baz mig welded his winch on with 2 1 inch welds and that pulled his jimnyoff its side ..(heavy i know lol) unless u do major cleaning the mig will prob be stronger . .... unless its a joking baby welder lmao

i use both mig and arc and mig is plenty strong enough for what u want me and baz mig welded his winch on with 2 1 inch welds and that pulled his jimnyoff its side ..(heavy i know lol) unless u do major cleaning the mig will prob be stronger . .... unless its a joking baby welder lmao

do you mean his toyota, ?? didnt think baz had rolled his jimmy

idratherbesurfing wrote:

Have never used an arc before , tho my mig welding is pretty good now

anyway am going to weld a plate between my chassis rails to bolt a winch onto. any tips for a first timer?

Five Tips to Improve Stick Welding
Shellfish can make you a better welder. Simply think about CLAMS: Current setting, Length of arc, Angle of electrode, Manipulation of the electrode and Speed of travel. If you're just learning the Stick process, technically called Shielded Metal Arc Welding, remembering these five points will improve your welding technique.
Q: What type of Stick welder works best for all-around use?
A: A welder with an AC/DC output, whether its an electric arc machine like Miller's Thunderbolt or a gas engine drive like Miller's Bobcat.
DC welding offers advantages over AC for most Stick applications, including: easier starts; fewer arc outages and sticking; less spatter/better looking welds; easier vertical up and overhead welding; easier to learn "how to weld" and a smoother arc. DC reverse polarity (electrode positive) provides about 10 percent more penetration at a given amperage than AC, while DC straight polarity (electrode negative) welds thinner metals better.
Q: Does an AC output have any advantages?
A: Yes, if you need to weld on material that's become magnetized from friction, such as when hay, feed or water constantly rub against a steel part. A DC output won't work because of "arc blow," where the magnetic field blows the molten filler metal out of the weld puddle. Because an AC output alternates between polarities, it enables you to weld magnetized parts.
Q: How big of machine do I need?
A: A 225 to 300 amp machine handles almost anything the average person will encounter, as most Stick welding procedures require 200 amps or less. To weld material thicker than 3/8 in., simply make multiple passes - this is what professionals do, even when welding on 1 in. structural steel.
Q: I see the word "duty cycle" on product spec sheets? What does that mean?
A: Duty cycle is the number of minutes out of a 10-minute cycle a welder can operate. For example, the Thunderbolt XL creates a 200 amp DC output at 20 percent duty cycle. It can weld continuously at 200 amps for two minutes, and then must cool for eight minutes to prevent overheating.
Duty cycle and amperage are inversely proportional. Operating at 90 amps, the Thunderbolt has a 100 percent duty cycle, meaning you can weld without stopping. This inversely proportional rule is true of all Miller machines but does not apply to all machines made by other companies.
Q: What type of rod should I use for hardfacing?
A: Hardfacing rods can provide impact resistance, abrasion resistance or both depending on the application. Because the type of rod required depends on the type of soil or aggregate in your area, contact your local welding supply distributor and ask for their expert opinion.
Q: What type of rod should I use for general work on steel?
A: Common electrodes used for general work include 6010, 6011, 6013, 7018 and 7024, each of which has specific properties: 6010 electrodes penetrate deeply, while 6013 electrodes penetrate less. For much better bead appearance and work on higher strength steels (say for a hitch), use a 7018 rod. For better penetration on thick material, grind the joint to a 30 degree bevel (leave a nickel-width land on the bottom of the groove) and make multiple passes. Alternatively, make the first pass with a 6010 rod, then make a "cap" with a 7018. The 7024 rod is perhaps the easiest to use. Also known as a "drag rod," this electrode's thick flux automatically maintains the correct arc length, which allows you to drag the rod directly along the work piece.
Q: Do I have to remove rust or oil before welding?
A: Stick welding is more forgiving on unclean conditions, but it never hurts to clean parts with a wire brush or grind off excess rust. If you prepare well and have average welding ability, you can make a sound weld. However, even great welding skill cannot overcome poor preparation, as it can lead to cracking, lack of fusion and slag inclusions.
Remember CLAMS
Now that you're ready to weld, remember CLAMS. Bringing all these points together in one moment of welding may seem like a lot to think about, but it becomes second nature with practice. And don't get discouraged! Stick welding got its name not because the electrode looks like a stick, but because EVERYONE sticks the rod to the workpiece when learning how to weld.
Current setting: The correct current, or amperage, setting primarily depends on the diameter and type of electrode selected. For example, a 1/8 in. 6010 rod runs well from 75 to 125 amps, while a 5/32 in. 7018 rod welds at currents up to 220 amps. The side of the electrode box usually indicates operating ranges. Select an amperage based on the material's thickness, welding position (about 15 percent less heat for overhead work compared to a flat weld) and observation of the finished weld. Most new welding machines have a permanent label that recommends amperage settings for a variety of electrodes and material thicknesses.
Length of arc: The correct arc length varies with each electrode and application. As a good starting point, arc length should not exceed the diameter of the metal portion (core) of the electrode. Holding the electrode too closely decreases welding voltage. This creates an erratic arc that may extinguish itself or cause the rod to freeze, as well as produces a weld bead with a high crown. Excessively long arcs (too much voltage) produce spatter, low deposition rates, undercuts and maybe porosity.
Many beginners weld with too long of an arc, so they produce rough beads with lots of spatter. A little practice will show you that a tight, controlled arc length improves bead appearance, creates a narrower bead and minimizes spatter.
Angle of travel: Stick welding in the flat, horizontal and overhead position uses a "drag" or "backhand" welding technique. Hold the rod perpendicular to the joint and tilt the top of the electrode in the direction of travel approximately 5 to 15 degrees. For welding vertical up, use a "push" or "forehand" technique and tilt the top of the rod 15 degrees away from the direction of travel.
Manipulation: Each welder manipulates or weaves the electrode in a unique style. Develop your own style by observing others, practicing and creating a method that produces good results for you. Note that on material 1/4 in. and thinner, weaving the rod typically creates a bead that is wider than necessary. In many instances, plain, straight-ahead travel works fine.
To create a wider bead on thicker material, manipulate the electrode from side to side creating a continuous series of partially overlapping circles, or in a "Z," semi-circle or stutter-step pattern. Limit side-to-side motion to 2-1/2 times the diameter of the electrode core. To cover a wider area, make multiple passes or "stringer beads."
When welding vertical up, focus on welding the sides of the joint and the middle will take care of itself. Pause slightly at the side to allow the far side of the bead to cool, the weld puddle to catch up, and to ensure solid "tie-in" to the sidewall. If your weld looks like fish scales, you moved forward too quickly and didn't hold long enough on the sides.
Speed of travel: The proper travel speed produces a weld bead with the desired contour (or "crown"), width and appearance. Adjust travel speed so that the arc stays within the leading one-third of the weld pool. Slow travel speeds produce a wide, convex bead with shallow penetration. Excessively high travel speeds also decrease penetration, create a narrower and/or highly crowned bead, and possibly undercuts.
A few last words of advice. Always remember that you need a good view of the weld puddle. Otherwise, you can't ensure you're welding in the joint, keeping the arc on the leading edge of the puddle and using the right amount of heat (you can actually see a puddle with too much heat roll out of the joint). For the best view, keep your head off to the side and out of the smoke so you can easily see the puddle.
Also remember that you learn through mistakes. There's no shame in grinding out bad welds. In fact, professional welders create perfect welds by recognizing imperfections, grinding them out and rewelding.hope this helps you. and look on you tube ( you tube link )

tony so your not a stupid as you look, lmfao

miketyres wrote:

i use both mig and arc and mig is plenty strong enough for what u want me and baz mig welded his winch on with 2 1 inch welds and that pulled his jimnyoff its side ..(heavy i know lol) unless u do major cleaning the mig will prob be stronger . .... unless its a joking baby welder lmao
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TOYOTA LAMB BRUISER 2.4TD

noticed ur sig u didnt buy it back off baz did u ????

PITBULL wrote:

miketyres wrote:

i use both mig and arc and mig is plenty strong enough for what u want me and baz mig welded his winch on with 2 1 inch welds and that pulled his jimnyoff its side ..(heavy i know lol) unless u do major cleaning the mig will prob be stronger . .... unless its a joking baby welder lmao
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TOYOTA LAMB BRUISER 2.4TD

noticed ur sig u didnt buy it back off baz did u ????

no thats from when he had it be for me he still got his vit pick to he hasnt had that jeep 4 about 12 months now

robert francis wrote:

do you mean his toyota, ?? didnt think baz had rolled his jimmy

no he does mean my jimny i had it on 2 wheels leaning up on a bank down a very good byway. then we miged the winch on the toyota

i use mig and arc welders and have always had a better and stronger weld from a mig